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    September 26, 2012
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>> so he's really going to show up on october 19th? >> we'll see. >> i can't wai for october 19th's show. patrick murphy gets tonighs st wo th f joining us. >> thanks good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. 41ays until the 2012 election and only seven days until the first presidential debate. e iedneis tling nbc news, really? well, tonight we'll reintroduce the romney campaign to the concept of arithmetic. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. >> president obamand i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> mitt romney is still trying to clean up s 47% problem and america isn't buying it. tonight, e.j. dionne on today' disastrous new poll numbers for republicans. an ohio democraticarty chair,
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ris dfor on ttne failure to dot the "i" in the buckeye state. >> it's not consistent with our polling, steve. >> the romney campaign has officially joined the poll truthers. tonight, we will debunk the republican alternate reality. heres ndtaro g n pog is year by the media organizations. >> and there's more fallout from senator scott brown's race-baiting campaign. we'll have the latest from boston. >>and e st o'srt jobs" gets his dirtiest job yet. >> mike rowe, as you know, well, he's a guy who has made a name for himself by doing things other people don't want to do. really ugly, dirty jobs. like standing with a politician. >>'lplwhkee waan oe g age with the wrong candidate today. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks.
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thanks for watching. no republican candidate has ever lost ohio and won the presidency. mi romney is on the verge of isti.g yet another victim of ohio's 18 electoral votes are vital to romney's chances of winning in november. if mitt romney loses ohio, he's going to have to win all six swing states where the president currently leads. the president's lead in ohio is starting to look dominant. in a fox news poll, president obama leads by seven points. a "washington post" poll puts the president up by eight points in ohio. and the most recent poll by cbs and "the new york times" has president obama leading by ten points. romney was in ohio today, making a new pitc voters. he's the guy who understands their pain. >> there are so many in our country that are hurting right now. i want to help them. i know what it takes to get an economy going again and creating jobs. >> voters in ohio don't believe romney on this front at all. wht cos to the enomy
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51 ovo she trust president obama against 45% of voters who trust mitt romney. obama has an advantage on the economy in ohio, because basically, this state is a national success story when it comes to the economy. sten to mitt romney's ohio surrogate, governor hn kasich. doesn't sound like there's much reason for ohio voters to make a change. >> you know, i hope you all know that ohio's coming back from 48th in job creation to number four, number one in the midwest. from 89 nts and a rainy y fund to $500 million, and we have grown 123,000 jobs in the state of ohio. our families are going back to work. >> governor kasich, you forgot to tell us where you stood on that automobile thing that was kind of big in your state, one in eight jobs are connected to the automobile industry, which, of course, president obama helped out with the automobile loan, which all you republicans can't stand. things are great, so vote for mitt romney, right?
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i don't think so. today romney launched a new ad campaign. accordinto the "waington post," greg sargent, this new ectesid,l, it's going to replace all english-language romney ads in nine states. it's another attempt to soften romney's image. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference i my polici wi makthin br >> he's sticking up for president obama. that's kind of cool, isn't it? romney hopes this video will have an impact. but there's another video affecting romney's campaign in a very much bigger way. >> and so my job is not to worry t e le i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> it is brutal. the hidden fund-raiser video where romney disparaged 47% of americans is not helping with swing voters. it's also hurting romney with his base. "the new yortimes" talked to a work, etern unemployed republican from ohio.
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romney's comments didn't sit well with myers. "the last thing, where he was going on about the 47% who are dependent on the government is hard to swallow. i think i'm part of e 47% he's talking about. but don'wanto beepennt heert. th attodicn of where that comment has taken this campaign. the obama campaign is hammering romney's comments in television ads in ohio. it appears to be taking a toll on romney's number. the llup tracking poll showed romney ming gd wi moiciocotiafteth a week after the fund-raising video was released by mother jones, obama has opened up a six-point lead. president obama was also in ohio today, delivering a knockout punch. and, oh, yes, he reminded ohio voters where mitt romney was whhetedem critical time. >> when my opponent said we should just let detroit go bankrupt, that would have meant
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walking away from an iustry that supportone in eight ohio bs. it supports businesses in 82 of 88 ohio counties. so when he said that, i said, no, i'm going to bet on america. i'm betting on american workers. >> ohio's 7.2% unemployment rate is dectllink to e au uee . romney's campaign will live to regret "let detroit go bankrupt," that editorial, that of courshe penned in detroit newspaper. according to cnn, a longtime gop strategist called obama's adntage on t aobilloan ckthanor romney campaign. you can fill in the blanks for yourself. i think you know what he said. romney is also still struggling to undo the damage done by ads highlighting his record at bain capital. csodhewaincampaign and ser ohio with ads, pushing romney's anti-working man image.
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one particular ad was especially damaging. >> out of the blue one day, we were told toui a 30-foot stage, gathered the guys, and we built that 30-foot stage, not knowing what it was for. just days later, all three shifts were told to assemble in the warehouse. a group of people walked out on that stage and told us that the ant owsed alof you are fired. mitt romney made over $100 million by shutting down our plant and devastated our lives. turns out that when we built thattageit w lbung wnfi >> that ad was putn the internet by priorities usa super pac, supporting the president. the ad was viewed millions of times and 60% of the views came from the state of ohio. romney needs to turn things
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arou in ohio, and he needs to do it in a hurry. he's running out of time, and e buck to trend in the buckeye state, well, it's going to be awfully tough to do. he has never really connected with the middle class. i've said it like a broken record on this program time and time again. and later in this broadcas we'll show you how romney is trying to connect to the middle class th ts guwho es t ads for some car outfit, and wears the hat and has his own show. and he's standing on the wrong stage. we'll get to that later. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who's going to win ohio? text "a" for the president and text "b"ort roey t 622639 or go to ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the resul later in the show. joining me tonight, e.j. dionne of "the washington post," also an msnbc contributor, and author of "our divided political heart," and chris redford joins us tonight gentlemen, great to have you with us. e.j., you first. this is quite a mountain to
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climb for any campaign, whether it's mitt romney or anybody else. how is he going to be able to do it? >> well, i think he knows he's in a hole, because that ad you showed where he sa, both of us re a mdle s families, that was almost an entirely defensive ad. and that quinnipiac/"new york times" poll showed why. there was a question in there at asked, does obama, does romney care about the middle cls, the rich, the poor, o everyone equally? most polls that give four choices usually get scattered answers. 58% of the people in ohio said that mitt romney's policies favored the rich. ampoesoritt, 59% said that everybody equally or the middle class. that's a 17-point gap. and i think the auto rescue is part of it. those bain ads are part of it. ken blackwell, the former republican secretary of state was on cnn tod. and he said it was just like
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bush roughed up kerry in the summer and kerry never recovered. and he didn't say romney will never recover, but the implication was, romney's in a heap of trouble. >> chris redfern, who is the chairman of the democratic party in ohio also with us tonight. a very untenable position that goveor kasich is being placed in, to go out and talk about the economy when it's all positive for workers, and mitt romney's had nothing to do about it. what do you make of that? >> well, it's really important to realize that e downturn in the unemployment rates in ohio began long before john kasich took office. a close look at the record, we will reflect that the auto rescue came long before john kasich had a chance to take his turn as governor. and the commitment that the president made to middle income earners in places like toledo, a location that tt romney ntje -- n >> so you're on a roll. the democrats in ohio are on a roll. how do you keep from being overconfident right now? it's almost like you're running
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up the score. >> well, we're going to try to get every vote out there's 11.5 million ohions an every vote will count, but the old adage, only poll that matters is election night, that's not true. it's a week from night where every vote begins in earnest. and we'll drive 2.5 million democrats and independents to the polls and ensure that ose votes are counteearly and that we're well pitioned in the ininweof this caaign wor pdend thnabrn. his close ally in the united states senate. >> e.j., we just got a piece of an videotape in, an interview he did with nbc's ronllen. i want to play it for you and get your reaction afterwards. here it is. >> one thing you seem to have trble nvinng pple , are ont s about middle class people, people are struggling. they don't see in your background and your comments the kind of empathy and understanding that could really solve their problems. >> i think people had the chance who watched our republican convention to see the lives i've fed chance to touch during m
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to understand that i served as a pastor of a congregation with people of all different backgrounds and economic circumstances. that i care very deeply about the american people and people of different socioeconomic circumstances. mp all'vlkk throughout this massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there's anything that shows more empathy. >> "shows more emphy"? e.j., romney has gotten himself het al us signature piece of health care legislation, but then he's gone out and said one of the first things he's going to do is repeal obama care. the guy continues to stumble over himself. your take on it? >> you listen to that, and the obvious question i well, if it's such gooddea,bama teurn on, and imagine what rush limbaugh is going to say tomorrow about romney defending his massachusetts plan. maybe he's trying to break out of his box. but he's in a terrible position
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on this. but i think the onway that romney could carry ohio is if he unt e vos and maybe we'll have a different result. >> exactly. how can he care about people, care about workers when he has them build the stage, when they announce that they're taking over the company, and oh, by the way, all your jobs are going overseas. that to me is prettyough sale. e less bre his downfall throughout this whole campaign. chris, a big key in ohio will be early voting. what's the impact it's going to have on the race? >> well, four or five years ago when early vote began, we saw that we have a better turnout operation than our republican friends. e e,nd wveoperation all acss cultivated relationships with the voters over the course of the last couple of years. but it's really important to realize. >> you've got to know where the voting machines are going to be too. >> we know where the voters are and the voting machines are. and we know four words that mitt romney uttered that allowed us to ph pele tthe polls. det ant.
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850,000 jobs, they're right here in the buckeye state because barack obama stood up for thos jobs. we know where the voti booths are, in places like toledo at the ymca where it's easy and great access to get to and we're ing to turn out e te. >> great to have both of you with us tonight. remember to answer the question tonight on the screen. and share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we would really likeo get your comments on ohio. it'such a crucial state. dorsement, but me rowe of "dirty jobs" joined mitt romney today in ohio. we'll tell you why he might not want to give the candidate, you know, too much love. in fact, hought to take a second look, a very close look. congressman jim mcdermott joins me for the discussion. ay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason to look twice. the entirely new lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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coming up, "dirty jobs" host mike rowe ins mitt romney on the campaign trailo diuss
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bs and vocational training. i think he's campaigning with the wrong guy. scott brown's race-baiting comments about elizabeth warren and his supporter's racist chances have the cherokee nation asking the senator for an apology. and could democrats turn mn lin pisue this nomber? shrinking and the senate race is heating up. democratic senator richard karmonna will join me. please share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. we're right back. it was anythi. i had pain in my abdomen... it just wouldn't go away. i waspting, ibut i had already goney. through menopause. these symptoms may be nothing... but they could be early warning signs of a gynecologic cancer, such as cervical, ovarian, or uterine cancer. feeling bloated for no reason. that's what i remember. seeing my doctor probabl saved my life. rning sis are not the same for everyone. if t shi doctor probabl savwrong...fe. see your doctor. ask about gynecologic cancer. and get the inside knowledge.
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i'm an expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkwarconversations than i'm eipfo bee rag giony own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters mo to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders they matteros u ssmual.ssmutual is owned we'll help you get there.s welcome back to "the ed show ttneldanufacturing
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roundtable in bedford heights, ohio, today and he welcomed to the stage someone who was well known to many americans. mike rowe of "dirty jobs" on the discovery channel, and you may also know him from the ford television commercials. mnit all sharethe age endorsing him. >> he is nonpartisan, he's not here to endorse me, he's not here to add support to one campaign or another. he's here to talk about his ideas. >> sure. mr. rowe did offerome eas, and he talked about the kinds of people he cares about. >> the people who keep the lights on, the people who allow the toilets to work, the people who pick up roadkill, the people who paint the bridges, the people who farm, the people who is safe to say there is a candidate for president who cares about those very same people. but it's not the candidate rowe was sharing the stage with today. rowe talked about putting these people back to work and so has
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the president of the united states. pdentbama tried to sell his jobs bill last year over the refusal of the republican congress, he talked about the kinds of people who would get those kinds of jobs. >> it's a bill that would put people back to work, rebuilding amica. repairing our roads, repairing our bridges, repaingur ol it would lead to jobs for concrete workers like the ones here at hilltop, jobs for construction workers and masons, carpenters, electricians, t s trks, ironworkers. >> mike roweaid part of the problem was training. >> jobs depend on opportunity and training. over andver, that's what i hear, we need more opportunity an nbe tin >>nce again, there is a candidate who believes in job training, who understands we need more vocational training.
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>> one of the, i believe, mistakes we've made 20, 30 years ago was to start de-emphasizing vocational education. right now we've got shortages of folks in fields that need technical training, but don't necessarily require a four-year college degree. >> mr. rowe went on to make a moubpoabho nes untoree these kinds of wage earners. >> opportunity and training aren't enough. you need desire. i'm talking about desire in the sense of appreciation, with the rest of us. people with dirty jobs, skilled tradesmen, they represent a fairly modest part of the population. >> oh, we know how many mitt romney views many of the wage earners in this country, because we know what he said about the 47% of american who is pay no federal income taxes.
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>> 47% of americans pano income taxes. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> i would just say to mr. rowe, i'm glad that you are nonpartisan, but i really believe that the other candidate is the one that you should be sharg thagtht ey joining me tonight, congressman jim mcdermott of washington. congressman, great to have you with us tonight. just for the record, you know, i think mr. rowe mt be a pretty gooduy, very successful in the television history, a good communicator, but isn't this a perfect example of how folks who are wage earners may not be paying attention to who actually is fighting for them and might even step up on the wrong stage and vote for the wrong person? your thoughts. >> well, this is a desperate atmpt by romney to put a whole differt spin on his mpai, todebes ono cares about people who do the dirty work in this society. he has shown no sympathy for
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them in the past, he has shown no sympathy for their health care needs or their education e the'pet s. example, but there are lots of others. and they are now realizing with their numbers falling through the floor that theve got to do something to look like they care about working america. it is really a desperate move. >> temtse sfic their efforts. it was president obama who was trying time and time again to come forward with a specific jobs bill for infrastructure, that would affect the kind of jobs that they're talking about on the romney stage today. and i guess we have to remind americans of the kind of obstruction that w in the environmt in washington. >> we went again and again and again to the floor to try and get infrastructure funding. and the republicans simply held it up. i mean, paul ryan was right in the center of it. and now you're going to make him vice president of the united
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fruc bininharg oosin it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record oft, and paul ryan has a recordf being ains it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semanticof it as well, mike rowe is up there talking about the very pe tmiomwa dissing behind closed doors at that fund-raiser. he can't say it about them, but maybe this guy can. maybe i'll hand the microphone to this guy, this guy named mike rowe, who wears a workman's hat and a sweatshirt and goes around and has pretty good vibility, maybe he can get up there d saateadoe t e s. nds omt a desperate move, the choreoaphy of all of this. >> well, it's really based, ed, on the idea that the american
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people are stupid and they'll forget what he said last week. and now he comes with this show today and says, no, that wasn't me last week. he comes with this show today and said that wasn't me last week. that -- you forget about that guy. i'm a guy who really cares about working people. the american voters are not -- they did not miss the point about the 47% who don't pay income tax. unployed don't pay -- they don't pay income tax. and those people are the ones we're talking about here. >> congressman jim mcdermott, great to have you on "the ed show." thanks so much. keep up the fight, my friend. coming up, new video and new trouble for republican senator scott brown. find out what this tape can tell offeive ctic t nat a his cagnil and republicans don't like reality, so they have created, i guess you could say, a very new reality with a wild conspiracy theory, numerous ones, i might add, about the polls showing that president obama is in the lead. chris kofinis joins me nex stayith
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[ chanting ] and we are back. we wish we could report republican senator scott brown ispologizingor the offensive raai dg ll saturday. several of brown's staffers have
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been identified in this video yelling war chants and doing the tomaha chop. they're targeting brown's opponent, elizabeth warren. own claims she lied about her nati amecan ri, senator brown will not apologize for the racist rally. and this morning the principal ief of the cherokee nation issued a statement, demanding answers. "i call upon senator brown to apologize for the offensive actions of his staff a the unedatedunenlightened and racist portrayal of native peoples." just before 7:00 p.m. tonight, brown's spokesperson has released this statement, "senator brown has spoken to his entire staff and issued them theiond on wng tt this type of conduct will not be tolerated. he regrets that members of his staff did not live up to the high standards of the people of massachusetts expect and deserve." my friends, may i point out, this is not exactly an alogy. in fact, the state democratic
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rty is circulating a new video which shows the racist chanting could be a normal part of the brown campaign. >> when professor warren makes a mistake, claiming that she's a native american, you know, she could have very si just said, you know what, i'm sorry, i made a mistakeit sometng myamtoe. >> here are the facts. scott brown is the republican sweetheart in the most expensive senate race in the country. he's a sitting united states senato and he is attacking his opponent on her ethnic background. the date, 20. cau ev? t's turno boston city council member, eyanna pressley. great to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. how damaging is this to senator brown'campaign? >> it needs to be very damaging. this, actually, i n't consider isbee inhe nothing coy, codified or couched about this. it's just outright racist. but it is consistent with scott brown. he has been running scared.
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this is a tactic. elizabeth warr has s d scott brown has consistently, personally attacked. and now his staff, and it's important to underscore that, these are not just overzealous supporters. these are people who taxpayers pay their salary, who are on his payroll, who are supposed to be advising himn policy, adtiorstnt all eyes are on massachusetts with this senate race, and this is a very sad commentary. we know that scott- >> what do you make of senator brown's statement to his staff? do you consider that an apology? doest go far enough? and whatbout the reactioof the cherokee chief? >> the reaction from the chief is appropriate, and certainly, not surprising. scott brown has nogone far enough. you know, if affiliation and association we irrelevant, scott brn wouldn't continue to distance himlf fm mi ey
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i am a former -- before i was elected to office, i was an aide to a united states senator. and it is fair to say that your staff is not only a reflection you, but a reflection on you. >> when he said, in the debate, that you could look at elizabeth en tthhe n ve arin, i mean, i about fell over when i saw that. i mean, that plays right into the arizona "show me you papers" law, the big controversy we've had about that. what was your response to that? ti t t -y response right now amlaoman, but i'm not only offended by these remarks, as a black woman, i don't have to be native american to be offended. i'm offended as an american. scott brown isn't just a candidate. he is a sitting united states senator, and i want somee in
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that seat who subscribes to e pluribis enum. out of many, we are one. this is a consistent tactic. i thineast demonstrated in his voting record that he has d with big oil and billionaires and now i fear he's exposed that he'll side with bigots as well. ayanna pressley, city council u uni ts tve much. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show," stay with us. on friday i looked at the real polling numbers by an organization that i can't name, but i trust it. >> the romney campaign joins the growing number of republican emey have a democratic voter participation that is higher than the participation in the electorate in 2008. >> up next, we wilexplain why their alternate reality is a fantasy land. and all of a sudden arizona is back in play for nate
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>>da'llkut real poll numbers. the media is slating this myth that romney is in serious trouble. well, on friday i looked at the real poll numbers by an organization that i can't name, but i trust it. >> welcome back to "the ed show." ghal a hisuper orris, that's secret polling source more than a month ago. and it seems republicans are now working harder than ever to create their own reality. the conspiracy theories are reached fox news. >> well, if you look at the mainstream media, the big headline is, according to their polling, mitt romney is, what, five, six, seven, eight points behind barack obama right now. is that the same kind of polling
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you guys are finding with your internal? >> hold it right there. he's complaini about all those mainstream media polls? d idobamup by five points over mitt romney. here's ed gillespie of the romney campaign answering his question. >> it is not consistent with our polling, stephen. i'm struck by a couple of mbneere e e swing state polls out today, and in every single one of them, they have a democratic voter participation that is higher thanhe participation in the electorate in 2008. >> gillespies complaining about something a lot of mpininouas olate ersaled in all of these polls. by the way, the same fox news poll showed 42% identifying as democrats and 36 identifying as republicans. these republican talking point has gotten new life because a website claiming to fix all these inaccute polls that are out there. ha e nnall
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to fit the party breakdown used by scot rasmussen of rasmussen reports. but scott rasmussen said, "you cannot comre partisan ightg fr oneolliir toth different firms ask about partisan affiliation in different ways." so even the republican pollster from the right debunks the idea that all these national polls should be retooled to fit his methods. let's bring in democratic sttegist chris kofinis now. i think we've seen it all now. this is a heck of a sale job g the right wing is going full tilt on this, claiming all of these polls are oversampling democrats. have at . >> even, for exampleif you see the argument that occaonally you're going to have pls that ofec thas g ave consistency across every poll. and if you say, you're right, there are some methodological differences into models that different polls use to determine
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likely voters, tell me the poll where governor romney's ahead. i mean, show me the poll where he'shead in florida, show me the poll where he's ahead in ohio. he's behd in almoser single battleground state, except potentially north carolina, and there are polls showing him behind there. part of the problem here is that you can scream about public pollinand how inaccurate it . the reity , none believes, not en inkoverr ey're ahead in any of these critical states. >> here's rush limbaugh and steve on the conspiracy theory. >> they're hoping you stay hom and don't vote. he g tow president obama way up in the polls just to tamp down enthusiasm so republicans go, why even bother voting. >> it's the liberal media. we're going to be out there suppressing the american vote. does the obama campaign need to even respond to this garba? >> i don't think they need to respond, but as democrats, i
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think we need to be very careful about being overconfident. this race is not like 2008, and that's something that still gives me a little bit of pause and concer 2008, you knew it was over by mid-september, as soon as the financial crisis happened. it was basically destiny. you knew the president, you knew that then senator obama was going to win. this one, i would say, the president is clearly in a strong position, but there are still potential twists here with the debate being one of them, if governor romney has a good debate, he can change it, but the problem here is he's running a bad campai. a cdaith bad policies, and how do you turn that around in one debate? i'm not sure it's possible. >> well, chris, he's got all these internal nbers now that he's banking on. they've got to be feeling good about their internal numbers. ery campaign has internal w hrnar?u kw hoit i we've played a big segment tonight on ohio. i think he had that mr. rowe on there with the hat on and the working man look to try to
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appease the problem when it came to the 47%. how does he turn this around? and where does he turn it around? where does he really have to focus? >> here's what i think is interesting about this election. it started off, you know, as most elections do for mb, ren buent became clearly a choice. now it's become a referendum again, but not on president obama. it's become a referendum on governor romney and his policies and his statements and his vision, and his just, i thin basic outlook for the country, for hard-working filies. i'm not sure how he changes that. he's got to go into that debate. because it reallis the one defining moment that's left r him. he's got to go into that debe and show an pathic se th we have not seen. he's got to show vision and substance that we have not seen, and he's got to rock the president. and i don't believe any of those things can happen in one debate. and if he doesn't, the stink of death is going to materialize aroundhis campaign. at that time, they're going to say, listen,e didn't win tha dete. ireleve >> all right. chris kofinis, great to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time on "the ed show." coming up, now that the
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deadline has passed for todd akin to withdraw from his senate race in missouri, look at this, some republicans are making peace and getting behind his campaign. wihe fw ? stay tuned. does your phone give you all day battery life ? droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ?
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welcome back to "the ed show." noto say that i told you so,
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but i knew i was going to be doing this story before too long. since making national headlines with his legimate rape commt, ces tak has been walking a lonely road in the missouri senate race against clai mccaskill, the incumbent. top national republicans, what dohe? , u ho ep down. republican groups pulled funds from his race. last week, the chair of the rnc said akin won't receive any support from the party. but he continues to win the support of some big-name republican rebels, i guess you could say. earlier this week,t was former house speaker newt gingrich. today, former presidential caidate ricktointh carolina, and senator jim demint got together endorsing akin in a joint statement. and now that the deadline for akin to withdraw from the race has passed, it's looking like republicans may have no choice but to fall in line behind his campaign in a last-ditch effort toust aireccas a maybe grab the senate, which for
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some means they're just going to have to do a flat-out 180. senator roy blunt was one of the many politicians who publicly urd akin to get out of here. >> you know, i tnk it's a distraction and "the wall stet jol"ins inid todd needs to get out of this race, because the things he's for are actually being held back by all the focus on him and some comments he's made. >> but late tuesday night, just afr the 5:00 p.m. deadline, blunt sued statement annocingis srt t coss "congressman akin and i don't agree on everything, but he and i agree the senate majority must change. from governor romney to the county courthouse, i'll be working for the republican ticket in missouri and that includes todd akin doggone it. and blunt isn't the only one changing his tune. the senatorial campaign has released a statement saying, we're going to support the guy.
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which begs the question, will the blan niona committee, that's you, reince priebus, right, would you follow suit and embrace todd akin? come on. and how long is it going to be before mitt romney flip-flops on this one? >> i can't defend what he said. >> until when? tonight in our survey, i asked you, who will win ohio? 98% of you say president obama, 2% of you say mitt romney. coming up, new polling shows president obama gaining on mitt romney in the red state of arizona. naeaul turning senator k's blue. we're going to be talking to democratic senate candidate trying to win his seat, next. stay with us.
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chsn'tkeie it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. and in the big finish tonight, the red state of arizona could be changing colors. nepollg fr pure te s mro with only a three-point lead over president obama. back in 2008, the obama campaign thought they had a shot at arizona if senator john mccain had not been on the top of the ticket. there is also a open senate seat in the state of arizona that is now in play. outgoing republican setor jon d lue. cld bturng the republican candidate for senate is congressman jeff flake. he leads democrat challenger richard carmona by only one
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point in a carmona campaign internal poll. pireicn keessman flake is a boehner's failing house of representatives. he wants to repeal obama care, the affordable care act, he's against same-sex marage, he's against a woman's light to choose, and the icing on the cake, he voted for pl ryan's, at se le cl,or budget that completely guts medicaid and dismantles the social safety net in america. his opponent, former george w. bush surgeon general, richard carma, is taking the opposite approach. >> it's reprehensible to think that the contract that we have oen tgh medicare or social security is going to be cut. that doesn't make any sense. these are not entitlements. these are, in fact, investments. so i think that'thwrong thinto d >> meanwhile, flake is trying to
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tie carmona to president obama. >> richard carmona was recruited by barack obama. jeff flake is supported by jon kyl and john mccain. carmona is for obama's health care law. flake's against obama's health care law. >> joini me w isr. rhard onemticandate for senate in arizona and the former surgeon general of the united states. doctor, nice to meet you. great to have you here on "the ed show" tonight. i'll go right to it. alth care is in ur whou you are the expert. he's going after you, your opponent's going after you on obama care. but you have been critical of health care in general on both sides. where do youtand on all of wel as rgeogenel, i was very career, and i still feel the same way, as a physician, as a professor, when i responsibility for the nation's health. it was a real problem that our nation didn't have a system that provided access to health care
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for all, and we need a robust business plan to be able to suppt that. sot'ere stanand ll never waiver from the fact that i believe that every american should have access to a basic set of health care benefits. >> well, you've got a lot of senior citizens in the state of arizona. how do y play with them and is this going to be your ticket? >> well, i don't have any specific ticket. i mean, i fall back on a long history of service. having been a policeman, having been a soldier, having been a combat soldier, u.s. army special forces, having been a surgeon general of the united states, a professor at a university. so all of these things are ally things that i have worked with all my life and i've had the privilege to serve. >> senate seats don't open up too often inhe state of arona. in ft,renlen sersara's 0-ye history. why do you think you have a shot at this one? >> i think i have a good shot. in the last ten months as i've been running for the u.s. senate, i've traveled the state and spoken to average persons, to native americans on the reservation, to business people, to bankers. most of the people i sak to venh wthck of ldership that jeff flake has shown in his position as a congressman.
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businessmen tell me time and time again that he's against everything and for nothing. he's not willing to compromise. he takes extre positions. so ihink they're desperate for real leadership. and i can provide that leership for them. >> and there's a third party libertarian idat iss g elu? >> i don't know. i haven't really thought about it. i've heard about this person. but the fact is that working real hard, staying positive on my messages, showing the public the differences between congressman flake and i, and we're tied, and no one ever expected that to happen. i'm veryas wite am i toerhat's taught me to be a good candidate. >> and we know in the past year, the state of arizona has been the hotbed of conversation and legislation when it comes to immigration. the show me your papers law, all of the controversy that surrounded all of th. immigration reform, hoin your state. how do you differ from congressman flake on this issue? >> well, i can tell you how i feel about it very simply. the problem is congressman flake has changed multiple times, especially after he decided to become a senator. you know, he ran aery tough
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primary and you have to move far tohe rht and now he'trying tow oplee's a moderate, which he really isn't. i've been steadfast in my beliefs as the surgeon general of the united states and after. i thought there was a great plan in not disadvantaging the children and allowing us to have a dream act. i still believe that's the path rwar ithet onab way to settle this divisive battle that brings no value to the american public. >> i want to get back to health care. that's your strength and you're the exrt on it. do you believe iuniversa heal care? youievemen should have it? >> as i said in the opening remarks, i believe every american should have access to a basic set of health care benefits. i am okay with the marketplace, i'm okay with competitio in fact, if you look at almost every plan in the last few years and what wdo in our states now,t alcobl care organizations. let's measure what we do. let's make everybody more accountable.